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The Dad Edge Podcast

Guiding Your Kids Toward Faith Without Forcing It

The Dad Edge Podcast

Larry Hagner

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.8 β€’ 1.6K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I'm joined by my co-host Uncle Joe for one of our live Q&A sessions β€” where real men from the Dad Edge Alliance bring their real questions, and we do our best to give them real, honest answers.

This one covers a lot of ground. We open with a powerful question from Rich β€” a man who spent nearly 30 years as an agnostic, gave his life to Christ six months ago, and now wants to know how to lead his 11 kids toward faith without forcing it on them. Joe brings wisdom from his own walk, and I share a deeply personal story about going to church with my son Ethan β€” how one pastor's offhand comment cracked something open in me, and how an honest, vulnerable conversation in a car changed the entire trajectory of my relationship with my son around faith.

The second question is one that hits close to home for a lot of men in this community: when things have been bad in your marriage for a long time and you finally start getting wins β€” how do you avoid going complacent? Joe and I both dig into this one from personal experience. Joe speaks to the PTSD that builds up inside a man after years of a hard marriage, how fear and insecurity can quietly self-sabotage the very progress you've worked so hard for, and why faith β€” not fear β€” has to lead. I talk about consistency, keeping the sword sharp, and why marriage is exactly like the gym.

We close with a bonus coaching moment on communication β€” why "you make me feel" is a conversation grenade, and how to ask for clarity in a way that actually works.

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Timeline Summary

[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities

[1:01] Welcome to the Q&A β€” live questions from real Dad Edge Alliance members

[1:42] Reminder: Roommates to Soulmates Cohort preview call on April 1st at 7pm Central

[2:50] Question 1 β€” Rich: I gave my life to Christ six months ago after 30 years as an agnostic. How do I lead my older kids toward faith without forcing it?

[6:07] Joe's answer: You lead by example, walking it out in front of them β€” including when you fail and change course

[8:33] Joe's story: his son Colin told his wife "the dad I have now is not the dad I had ten years ago"

[9:21] The power of community in faith β€” why you cannot walk this walk alone

[9:55] What Joe does every two weeks: a Zoom Bible study with his entire grown family

[11:02] Your outside world is always a reflection of your inside world β€” get your inside right first

[13:47] Larry's answer: his personal journey from cultural Catholic to full believer β€” and what changed in the last year

[15:17] The situation with Larry's son Ethan β€” a controversial church, a girlfriend pushing conversion, and how Larry navigated it without muscling him

[16:35] How Larry approached it: curiosity over control β€” asking questions instead of issuing warnings

[17:14] Larry goes to church with Ethan and hears a pastor say: "I had a great dad β€” but I had to find God by myself"

[19:12] The conviction that hit Larry on the way home: "I'm failing you just like his dad failed him"

[21:33] The honest conversation in the car β€” and Ethan's response that Larry never expected

[23:10] How Larry invited Ethan into a Bible study as a fellow learner, not a teacher β€” and what it has done for their relationship

[25:22] Question 2 β€” Anonymous: When things have been bad for years and you finally start getting wins in your marriage, how do you avoid getting complacent?

[25:56] Larry's answer: expect your wife to pull back at first β€” she's afraid to hope. Keep the sword sharp and never take your foot off the gas

[28:01] Joe's answer: be mindful of the PTSD and insecurity that builds up inside a man after years of a hard marriage

[29:21] How fear and insecurity can quietly self-sabotage the progress you've worked so hard for

[30:16] Let faith lead, not fear β€” fear has never once led Joe somewhere he was glad he went

[31:03] A real-time example: a man texting Joe that morning β€” his wife said she wants to stop counseling and he went into panic mode

[32:26] How to get clarity instead of telling yourself a story

[34:23] The right way to ask for clarity β€” why "you make me feel" is a grenade and what to say instead

[36:31] Words have power. Be effective, not just right.

[37:27] Bonus: never text your wife emotional content β€” everyone reads it through their own filter

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Five Key Takeaways

  1. You lead your kids toward faith the same way you lead them in everything else β€” by living it in front of them, including letting them see you fail and change course.
  2. You don't have to be an expert to lead your kids spiritually. Invite them to learn alongside you. "Let's figure this out together" is more powerful than "let me teach you."
  3. Your outside world is always a reflection of your inside world. If you want things to change around you, start with what's happening inside you.
  4. When your marriage starts turning around, don't get complacent. Marriage is like the gym β€” you don't work chest for eight weeks and then wonder why it's gone. Consistency is everything.
  5. Stop telling yourself a story about what your wife meant. Get clarity. And when you do, don't say "you make me feel" β€” own your interpretation and ask with curiosity, not accusation.

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Links & Resources

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Closing

If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: the most powerful thing you can do for the people you love is get yourself right on the inside first.

Whether it's leading your kids toward faith, rebuilding your marriage, or just showing up differently than you have before β€” it all starts with the man in the mirror. Not the version of you that has all the answers, but the version that's humble enough to say "I don't have it all figured out, but I'm willing to learn."

That's the man your kids need. That's the man your wife needs.

If this episode resonated with you, share it with a man who is in the middle of his own turning point.

Go out and live legendary.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. The Dad Edge movement creates leaders of men, leaders of families, and leaders of communities. We will not only impact this generation of fathers, but the next generation as well. The kids we are raising will have better chances and odds stacked in their favor because of the amazing example

0:21.2

that their fathers emulated for them. We are here to change the world. We are here to change

0:27.6

relationships. We are here to positively disrupt this generation of fathers so no man goes to their

0:33.6

grave with regret. We disrupt the drift of busyness and replace it with razor-focused intention,

0:40.3

passion, purpose, and direction.

0:43.7

We are the Dad Edge,

0:45.7

and we're here to change the game.

0:47.8

We're here to change the game.

1:28.2

I don't know. What's up, gentlemen? Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. This is our epic Q&A with me and Uncle Joe, and it's only epic because Uncle Joe's here. Let's just face that real quick. Jens, if this is your first time here, welcome here, the Q&A. These are live and we answer the questions from our members in the Dad Edge Alliance, the best way we possibly can. They're questions by far. They're not only a service to the guys who are on this call, but they're a service to the audience members. We've got some great questions lined up for you guys today. Really, really excited. And before we get started

1:32.5

really, really quickly, I want to remind you guys if your marriage feels like roommate syndrome right

1:37.6

now, where everything is just logistics, everything is just management, all that good stuff,

1:41.8

it's actually not good stuff. It's really bad stuff.

1:53.1

We are doing our second preview call on April 1st, Wednesday at 7 p.m. Central. If you guys want to be a part of that, there is no cost. This is a free call of what we're going to be doing in the cohort over

1:57.5

the eight weeks. If you want to join that, head on over the dad edge.com

2:01.2

forward slash soulmates to RSVP for that. You'll get the Zoom link. You'll be a part of the call. You'll get to see what we're doing and how we do it. So like I said, if you're experiencing that in any way, shape, or form, you want to bring a little romance, a little intimacy, a little connection back. That's a good way to do it. And by the way, I do lead that eight-week cohort. So if you want to join, this is the time to do it. But without further ado, Uncle Joe, what's going on, man? How you doing? I'm doing good today, Larry, and excited to be here. You know, you say you like the show's epic because I'm here. Really, that's not true. Okay. What's true is, is I'm just like an older, not quite as handsome version of you, you know,

2:39.4

just showing up here just to try to backfill and take up space.

2:43.0

Get out of here, man.

2:44.3

Get out of here.

2:46.1

Well, I'm so glad you're here.

2:47.5

And we've got a question and let's get started.

2:51.9

Rich, what you got man

3:03.3

all right can you hear me okay yes sir yeah buddy all right so i'm 41 i grew up until i was about 12 in the church and i ended up leaving the church and I become an agnostic for pretty much my

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