This is Free Thought Radio on Air America with your hosts Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor.

Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try.

No hell below us.

Above us only sky

Imagine all the people

Living for today.

Hello, are you secular, godless, humanist, and activists.

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor.

And I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood atheist.

Free Thought Radio is broadcasting and streaming from Air America.

The Free Thought Radio is a production of the Freedom from Religion Foundation,

which is the nation's largest organization of atheists and agnastics.

And I remember the days when there were just three of us.

I'm a co-founder, and this is going to date me,

but the Freedom from Religion Foundation started on my mother's dining room table.

1976, back when I was a college student, and I'm one of the three founding members of the group.

So we have grown to more than 14,000 nationwide. The group was asked to go national in 1978,

and has long been the nation's largest association of free thinkers.

And we also work, and our most important work, we believe, is to keep state and church separate.

And even though we think 14,000, after you start off with three members, 14,000 seems like a lot.

But I always think of Margaret Mead's quote.

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