Guests: Hawaii activists Holly Huber and Mitch Kahle

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🗓️ 26 August 2013

⏱️ 43 minutes

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State/church whistleblowers

We celebrate the 93rd anniversary of Women's Equality Day and the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech. We talk about FFRF's state/church activism, including this week's federal court victory upholding standing to proceed in our IRS electioneering lawsuit. Then we talk with Hawaii state/church activists Holly Huber and Mitch Kahle who, as whistleblowers on behalf of the state, are suing churches, alleging they have defrauded the government by underpaying millions of dollars for the use of public schools.

We celebrate the 93rd anniversary of Women's Equality Day and the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech. We talk about FFRF's state/church activism, including this week's federal court victory upholding standing to proceed in our IRS electioneering lawsuit. Then we talk with Hawaii state/church activists Holly Huber and Mitch Kahle who, as whistleblowers on behalf of the state, are suing churches who are underpaying millions of dollars for the use of public schools. - See more at: http://direct.ffrf.org/news/radio#sthash.EIdNMJdF.dpuf

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0:00.0	This is Free Thought Radio with co-host Stan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor,
0:14.7	Irreverent Views, News, Music, and Interviews.
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0:31.1	No hell below us
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0:47.3	living for today
0:59.6	Welcome, feminists, Black America, Civil Libertarians.
1:02.7	To Free Thought Radio, I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor.
1:05.5	And I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood atheist.
1:15.7	Today is August the 24th, 2013, Free Thought Radio broadcast from the Mike 92.1 in Madison, Wisconsin.
1:21.6	We stream from the station, and of course, welcome and hello to all you listeners in California,
1:28.7	in New York State, a number of stations in New York, in Michigan, in central Missouri, and in Texas.
1:33.4	Regular listeners know that Free Thought Radio is the weekly production of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, and we have two purposes. We work to educate the public about
1:37.6	non-theism and represent the views of our almost 20,000 members nationwide who are non-believers,
1:46.1	and we also work to keep religion out of government as our First Amendment requires.
1:49.3	We have a lot of news to talk about today on the state church separation front, including
1:54.6	a federal court decision that allows FFRF to continue one of our lawsuits against the IRS. And in the
2:04.0	second half of the show today, we will talk with Hawaii activists, Mitch Kale and
2:10.2	Holly Huber, about an exciting and really unusual lawsuit they have just unveiled that accuses
2:17.1	churches of defrauding the government.
2:20.3	Mitch and Holly have filed a K-T-T-T-M lawsuit that is not a phrase you hear that much.
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