This is free thought radio on Air America with co-host Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor,

irreverent views, news, music, and interviews.

Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try.

No hell below us.

Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today First first you've made no no doubt about the fact that you are a Christian you publicly say you're a follower of Christ what does that mean to you and how does faith work out in your

life on a daily basis what what does it mean to you? It means I'm saved and

forgiven. And we're talking about the world. Our faith encompasses not just the United States of America,

but the world. A whole lot of religion going on in the presidential campaigns. Hello,

Freethinkers. We'll be talking about that and much more on Free Thought Radio today.

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor.

And I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood atheist.

Free Thought Radio is broadcasting and streaming live from Air America.

Free Thought Radio is a show that's produced by the National Freedom from Religion Foundation.

We are the nation's largest organization of free thinkers, atheists,

and agnostics, and we work to keep state and church separate and to educate the public about the

views of the real fast-growing segment of American public who identify as non-religious.

We're going to talk briefly about that notorious Saddleback Presidential Forum last weekend,

moderated by evangelical pastor Rick Warren in his enormous megachurch in California, very

briefly because we do have two great guests for today's show, Nebraska Senator Ernie

Chambers, an American original and defender of civil liberties. We're going to have an update

on how his lawsuit against

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