This is Free Thought Radio with co-host Stan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, Irreverent Views, News, Music, and Interviews.

Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only. Imagine all the people living for the day.

Hello, all you people who haven't got a prayer.

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor, and welcome to Free Thought Radio.

And I'm Dan Barker, the co-host and your friendly neighborhood atheist.

This is the weekend of May the 8th, 2010.

Frethought Radio is broadcasting and streaming from the Progressive Talk,

the Mike 92-1, Madison, Wisconsin.

We're also airing in several other cities around the country, and people are listening.

They're podcasting everywhere.

Free Thought Radio is the weekly production of the Freedom from Religion Foundation.

Not freedom of religion, which we do have in this country, but a subset of those of us in this country who don't believe, who are free from religion and who think the government should be the same way.

We know the government should be the same way under the First Amendment.

It should be the same way, yes.

So we exist to kind of make sure.

Like a watchdog. What a better description of a guy named Barker, right? Right, yes. So we exist to kind of make sure. We're like a watchdog. What a better description

of a guy named Barker, right? Why don't you give us one of your famous barks, come on. You can listen

to it on the Beware of Dogless City. Oh, you're shy? Come on. I just do bark. We'll be talking

later in the hour with the South African author of a book called Courage to

Doubt.

And it's an amazing story, and I thought he was plagiarizing me when I first heard his story,

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