This is free thought radio on Air America with your hosts Dan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor.

Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try.

No hell below us.

Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today Happy June to Free Thought Radio's faithful, faithless listeners, all you wonderful nonconformists and godless infidels.

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor.

Free Thought Radio is broadcasting and streaming live from Air America.

And I'm your friendly neighborhood atheist, Dan Barker, co-host of the show and co-president with Annie Laurie of the National Freedom from Religion Foundation.

We're a group of atheists and agnostics that's working to keep stayed in church separate.

And like we say, in every show that John Lennon said, we hope someday you

will join us. There was a preacher up there ranting and raging against the evils of America.

And you said, if I could get all the beer in the world, I would just take it down to the river

and throw it into the river. Alcohol. If I could take all the whiskey in the country, we would take it in a

wheelbarrow and dump it down into the river. If we could have all the wine in the world,

we could just, I would roll it down to the river and dump it into the river. So then the song

leader got up and said, let's all turn to song number 365. Shall we gather at the river?

We're going to talk about several issues today.

Our interview later in the show will be with journalist Jeff Charlotte, who's

author of the new book called The Family, the Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of

American Power. This is an expose on the secretive,

wealthy, elite ministry that puts on the annual national prayer breakfast that you've all heard of,

but is infiltrating all levels of government with its authoritarian Christian faith. You're going to be

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