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Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Guest Episode: Sidedoor: Lucy Hicks Anderson

Making Gay History | LGBTQ Oral Histories from the Archive

Making Gay History

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4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Known for her smashing parties, lighter-than-air soufflés, and comedic wit, Lucy Hicks Anderson never let anyone tell her how to live her life—not even the courts. When her gender was put on trial in the 1940s, the publicity around her case made her one the first documented Black transgender figures in American history. Find more Sidedoor episodes at si.edu/sidedoor or wherever you get your podcasts. For additional resources about Lucy Hicks Anderson, go here. ——— To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi History Makers, Eric here. A few months ago we launched Making Gay History's Patreon

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channel, a place where we're sharing new video interviews never before heard clips from

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my archive that didn't make it into the episodes and more. If you're not a member of our Patreon

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community yet, I hope you'll join today. Just $5 a month gets you access to these Making Gay

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History extras, and you'll support us as we work to bring LGBTQ history to life through the

0:26.4

voices of the people who lived it. Find out more at patreon.com slash Making Gay History,

0:32.4

or go to Making Gay History.com and click on the link in our homepage banner. And thank you so much.

0:42.9

Hi History Makers, Eric Marcus here. While we're working on the next season of Making Gay History

0:48.6

and in honor of Black History Month, I'd like to share a terrifically engaging and eye-opening

0:53.6

episode from Side Door, the Smithsonian Institution's flagship podcast. In the episode you're

0:59.5

about to hear, Side Door explores the life and times of Black trans pioneer Lucy Hicks-Anderson,

1:05.3

who was born in Kentucky in 1886. She was a remarkable woman, resourceful, witty and self-possessed,

1:13.2

and the story of her perseverance in the face of crushing prejudice resonates powerfully to this day.

1:19.6

I'll let Lizzie Peabody from Side Door take it from here.

1:22.9

To find more episodes, go to SI.edu slash Side Door, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:42.2

This is Side Door, a podcast from the Smithsonian with support from PRX and Lizzie Peabody.

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Take your court room. It's hot, crowded. At the front of the room,

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a square-shouldered prosecutor paces back and forth in front of the witness stand.

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In between questions, he pauses to glare at the woman sitting there. She's elegantly dressed,

2:14.3

gloves, tailored skirt suit, clearly fashionable. She's making full eye contact,

2:20.9

and no real smile. This is C. Riley Snorton, a professor of English and gender and sexuality studies

2:27.7

at the University of Chicago. She absolutely has a face of steely resolve. It's the mid-40s,

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