This is free thought radio on Air America with your host, Dan Barker, and Annie Laurie Gaylor.

Imagine there's no heaven

It's easy if you try

No hell below us

Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today Greetings are you godless and Fidel's and stalwart skeptics and those of you who were born right the first time.

I'm Annie Laurie Galar.

And I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood atheist of the airwaves.

Apparently I was not born right the first time.

I had to be born again as it became an evangelical minister, but I saw the airwaves. Apparently I was not born right the first time. I had to be

born again as it became an evangelical minister, but I saw the light and became a non-believer.

Welcome to Free Thought Radio, the rational radio for the rest of us, and we're broadcasting and

streaming live from Air America. And the show is produced by the Freedom from Religion Foundation. This is

Americas. We are America's largest organization of atheists and agnostics, working to educate

the public about the views, and we'll talk about that on our show today a lot, about why people

don't believe in a God or why they are agnostic, and also to keep state and church separate.

We have two guests today. We're going to be speaking in the second half of our program with

Doug Krieger, who's the author of What is Atheism? He teaches philosophy in Arkansas,

and it would be kind of an ask-an-athist segment going through the basics about just what atheism is.

But first, we are very pleased to have with us for the news portion of our show, David Russell.

He's a lifetime member of the Freedom from Religion Foundation.

He is a non-devout, although he is a devout state church activist.

And we're going to be talking about what's going on in Ohio

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