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It's easy if you try

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Above us only sky

Imagine all the people

living for today Hello all you infidels and iconoclasts.

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor.

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And I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood atheist, back again for Free Thought Radio,

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Our guest today is journalist, author, and freethinker Susan Chocoby, whose newest book, The Age of American Unreason, examines America's anti-enlightenment, the embrace of irrationality, anti-rationalism, infotainments hold on the country. We've interviewed Susan

Chacobby previously on Free Thought Radio about her previous book, Freethinkers, A History of American

Secularism, so we're looking forward to talking with her about this latest book dissecting the

dumbing down of America. And because April Fool's Day is coming up, my co-host, Stan, has a

pagan pulpit that will take a look at those pernicious Bible verses that attack atheists and very

impolitely call us many names among them fool. Talk about the dumbing down of America. My pagan pulpit is not dumbing down, right? It's the

believers. Before we get to all that, for a change of pace, and as a treat for you listeners,

Free Thought Radio is going to play an excerpt of Richard Dawkins' superb TV documentary. It's

called The Root of All Evil. And Dawkins always points out that that phrase ends with a question mark. It's all about religion. Dawkins is the evolutionary biologist and the author, of course, of the international blockbuster, The God Delusion. We interviewed Professor Dawkins two weeks ago for this show. We had a nice

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