Summary
Ben Rhodes, the ex-White House deputy national security adviser and confidante to President Obama, comes on to talk about the global rise of authoritarianism and how American foreign policy helped shape what he calls the “the 9/11 generation.”
And there’s a sensational comeback for one of the most influential men in Washington. Not Jon Sopel, another beauty (he’s still in London.) But Donald Trump, is preparing to hold the first post-presidential rally. We hear from POLITICO’s White House insider Anita Kumar about how Trump plans to stay relevant and why he’s always the elephant in the room for Joe Biden.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts |
| 0:04.9 | I go away for just two weeks and Anthony wants to know if you're done. |
| 0:10.8 | Emily's not here, she's gone, it's down to you mate. |
| 0:14.2 | Yeah well maybe she just got so tired of waiting around for you to come back that she gave |
| 0:18.0 | up and laughed at. |
| 0:20.4 | No I've been holding down the fort here, Emily will be back and you're back now so at |
| 0:24.8 | some point we'll get the whole gang back together but you know right now we're just kind |
| 0:27.6 | of alternating between the two of you. |
| 0:29.6 | Yeah and President Trump might be back as well or at least that's what he is apparently |
| 0:34.2 | saying. |
| 0:35.2 | What is the story from the New York Times yeah? |
| 0:37.4 | Yeah exactly. |
| 0:38.4 | What we're hearing is that Donald Trump has been telling people according to Maggie |
| 0:41.8 | Haberman of the Times that he will be reinstated, reinstated, brought back triumphantly to the |
| 0:47.6 | Oval Office, Joe Biden thrown out on his ear by maybe his early as August. |
| 0:52.8 | Of course none of that works that way as Haberman pointed out but that is what Donald Trump |
| 0:57.0 | seems to be stoking the fires up for, talking about it still. |
| 1:00.6 | We'll cover that if that happens that there is a minor coup and Donald Trump has taken |
| 1:05.5 | over. |
| 1:06.5 | On top of that General Michael Flynn is also back. |
| 1:09.3 | Remember him, he was the National Security Advisor, gets fired for lying to the Vice President, |
| 1:14.9 | pleads guilty to lying to the FBI, gets pardoned by Donald Trump and he spoke at a QAnon |
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