I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette.

I'm Greta Johnson.

And I'm Tricia Bobita.

Today, we're very excited to talk to Sean Gunn, who plays Yandu's first mate Kraglan in the biggest superhero movie of the Summer, Guardians of the Galaxy, Volume 2.

He's also, perhaps more importantly, at least to me, Kurt Gleason on Gilmore Girls.

Can I just say, I had no idea that Kirk had a last name.

From space pirates to basement dwellers, Sean is a versatile actor.

He's also a real nerd about underground rap and math and cats, all of which, of course,

we will talk about today on your dad.

Sean Gunn, welcome to the show.

So what is it like to be in the biggest superhero movie of the summer?

It's trippy.

Can I use that word?

Yeah, for sure.

I'm certainly very proud of the movie.

And I'm very glad that it's out because I've been sort of working on it somewhere or another for years. But yeah, now that it's out and it's doing so well, it's been very strange. I was just in

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