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Cato Podcast

Guantanamo Bay, Talking Points, and Endless War

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4.5979 Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2016

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

President Obama says closing Guantanamo Bay would nix a popular talking point for people hostile to America. Ben Friedman argues that not dropping so many bombs in foreign countries might be more effective.

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, February 23rd, 2016, and Caleb Brown.

0:06.8

The President argues that closing Guantanamo Bay Bay, the prison camp holding many

0:10.6

suspected terrorists, eliminates an important talking point for those hostile to the US.

0:16.0

Ben Friedman, a research fellow in defense and homeland security studies at the Cato Institute,

0:20.0

says if the president wants to stop talking points, maybe not bombing so many countries

0:25.2

around the world would be more productive.

0:28.1

How different is this plan from what Barack Obama proposed several years ago.

0:33.4

It's not very different.

0:34.8

The president's been trying to close the Guantanamo Bay

0:37.4

Prison-Gitmo since he was president.

0:40.8

He said he would do it in his first year.

0:42.0

He obviously failed. He announced the plan in May 2009 to close it through a mixture of military commissions for some detainees, federal trials for others, and indefinite detention for some.

0:58.3

And the president was prevented from making that plan of reality by annual congressional bans on transferring detainees

1:06.6

to the United States, which means you can't give them trials in the United States.

1:11.8

So we've been transferring people out at a pretty good

1:14.4

clip at least considering how difficult it is. There's now 91 this administration has transferred

1:20.4

147 out so we're draining the prison of its prisoners but the

1:26.8

remaining 91 consists of probably around 60 people who are not eligible to be transferred which means it's

1:36.0

hard to see what's going to happen to them.

1:37.8

The president has highlighted the use of Article 3 courts as an effective means for dealing with people that we suspect of terrorism.

1:47.4

So why not put people like that through that process? I agree with the president that we ought to use federal trials, Article 3 courts, to deal with terrorist suspects as much as we can.

2:02.0

However, the political concern is that it's somehow dangerous to bring prisoners into the United States, terrorists into United States,

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