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GRP 138-From Black September to Hezbollah: A conversation with Fred Burton

Global Recon

John Hendricks

Government

4.8592 Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2020

⏱️ 80 minutes

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GRP 138-For this week's podcast, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Fred Burton. Mr. Burton is one of the world's foremost authorities on security and terrorism. He oversees Stratfor's analysis of global security developments. Before joining Stratfor, Mr. Burton served as a counterterrorism agent with the U.S. State Department from 1985 to 1999. Mr. Burton was deputy chief of counterterrorism at the Diplomatic Security Service, where he was in charge of preventing and investigating attacks against diplomatic personnel and facilities. During his 14-year career, Mr. Burton was involved in many high-profile investigations, including the search for and arrest of Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind of the first World Trade Center bombing, and the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. Fred is a New York Times Best Selling Author. We discussed his fourth book, Beirut Rules: The Murder of a CIA Station Chief and Hezbollah's War Against America (Penguin Random House, 2018) recounts the 1980s kidnapping and murder of CIA Station Chief William Buckley in Lebanon. We talked about transnational terrorism, the role Iran played in the abduction of westerners during the 1980s, and much more. Enjoy. 0:00-Intro to Fred Burton 8:37-The development of modern terrorism. Black September and the Mossad 32:15-The assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin 37:58-Bengazi, and the story of William Buckley, the CIA station Chief of Beirut, who was kidnapped and tortured to death. Follow Global Recon below:   www.Globalrecon.net https://www.instagram.com/igrecon https://www.instagram.com/globalreconpodcast www.twitter.com/igrecon https://www.facebook.com/GlobalReconPodcast/   Chantel Taylor: https://www.instagram.com/mission_critical https://www.instagram.com/altern8rv

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0:00.0

The first Mercedes overtook the Renault on the driver's side, speeding past and blocking it off at an angle.

0:13.0

The second Mercedes swung in from behind and blocked off any chance of escape.

0:18.0

The American lived in a cul-de-sac and was now completely boxed in. He glanced

0:23.6

at his attache case. With AK-47s held at the ready, the masked man approached his car,

0:29.6

barking orders in Arabic. They had rehearsed this before. It took all of a handful of seconds

0:36.6

in the blink of an eye, and with the barrel end of a Kalashnikov to his temple, the American vanished into a Mercedes.

0:44.6

I was assigned to the hostage location task force at the CIA. There were primarily three of us, and it was a full-time job to try to locate the hostages.

0:57.5

But make no bones about it, President Reagan and others said, find Bill Buckley.

1:02.4

If you can locate Bill Buckley, you can locate the other Americans and the Westerners that were held.

1:08.4

It was one of those moments very similar to when Ambassador Stevens was missing

1:14.2

in Benghazi, when there's a sense of dread that just overtakes the entire nation and the entire

1:24.1

intelligence community and grinds everything to a halt.

1:39.6

Welcome to the Global Recon Podcast. I'm your host, John Hendricks. I have a very special guest on with me for this podcast. Mr. Fred Burton. How's it going?

1:47.1

Hey, John. Thanks for having me on the podcast.

1:56.2

Thank you for coming on. So you've been working in the world of counterterrorism for a long time,

2:00.8

but you started working for the State Department. Can we kind of talk about it from the beginning?

2:03.3

And then after talking about your career in the government, just kind of walk through

2:09.4

what you've been up to since then?

2:12.1

Be happy to.

2:13.2

I was a police officer first outside of Washington, D.C., in Montgomery County, Maryland.

2:20.0

And then we used to have the Secretary of State that lived in our district.

2:27.4

And so I knew the State Department had these agents that weren't like the Secret Service,

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