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Reflector

Growing Support at American Universities for Violent Palestinian Resistance

Reflector

Longview

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6577 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Wars—like the one between Israel and Hamas—are not only fought on the battlefield, but they are also fought through stories. In today’s episode, I interview Eman Abdelhadi, an American academic, activist, and organizer in the Free Palestine movement. Abdelhadi shares a perspective on Israel that, while controversial, is gaining influence across the United States, particularly on college campuses. A recent Pew survey revealed that 34% of Americans under 30 find Hamas' reasons for fighting Israel to be valid, and only 16% of Americans support continued U.S. military aid to Israel. If you align with the Free Palestine movement, Eman’s story may resonate deeply. If you support Israel, it may be challenging and even frustrating to hear. But regardless of where you stand, I believe there is value in listening to a view that is shaping more and more of the American discourse on this issue. If you’d like to share your feedback on this or any episode, you can reach us at hello@reflector.show. Thank you to our sponsor Ground News. You can visit them here to learn more: GROUND.NEWS To support our work please consider becoming a paid subscriber. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I do believe that Palestinians have a right to violent resistance.

0:03.8

Now, that's not an endorsement of Hibbas.

0:06.1

That's not an endorsement of October 7th.

0:08.1

But I think it's really important to frame the conversation in a way that leaves room for that.

0:13.6

Because I think it is inhumane to ask a people to go through what Palestinians have gone through

0:20.1

and to ask them to lie down and die

0:22.9

in a way that would never be asked of people who are not brown or not black. They have a moral

0:29.3

and ethical and political right to resist a military occupation with a military force.

0:48.3

Music military occupation with a military force. So this isn't necessarily about stopping the current conflict in Gaza alone. It's almost more about stopping the enterprise that is Israel, that Israel has been since the 1940s.

0:55.2

Yes, because you have to recognize the war as a natural end result to the Zionist project.

1:07.2

I'm Andy Mills, and you're listening to Reflect Her.

1:17.8

Wars, like the one that's being fought right now between Israel and Hamas, are not only

1:23.3

thought on the battlefield, but they're also fought in stories. Today's episode is an interview

1:29.7

with an American academic who is telling a story about Israel that, while it remains controversial,

1:35.9

and is much disputed, is one that is gaining influence throughout the country, especially

1:41.1

on college campuses. I suspect that the story she tells, and many of her beliefs, will differ from many of you who are listening.

1:50.1

For example, she doesn't believe in the legitimacy of the state of Israel at all.

1:55.7

She views Israel not as a sovereign, independent nation, but as an unjust European colonialist project. She believes

2:04.6

that Israel is losing the current war, which she calls a genocide, and she believes that President

2:11.0

Biden should be arrested and imprisoned. These are all views that are factually contested. Some are even seen as anti-Semitic.

2:20.4

And as we mentioned in the last episode, they remain on the fringes of American politics.

2:26.2

But there is ample evidence that they are growing in popularity. In a recent Pew survey,

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