What's going on everyone to Kevin from Epic Gardening here? We're back with

Kaleed the Plant Charmer Maduji and we're talking about probably what you're

most famous for, Kaleh, at least on Instagram or at least on the internet and that would be your your

gutter system of growing plants these vertical eight frames you're combining a lot of sort of

different methodologies and just number one it's a visually striking method to grow plants

number two it's exceptionally productive and you really made it work so I

figured for those of us who didn't listen to the podcast a year ago which is

probably most of you listening.

It's been quite a while.

We're going to go into exactly what that setup looks like at a high level, and then we're going to

kind of dive in. We'll talk about fertilizer, soil, irrigation, all that stuff. I know that Chris, a

listener wanted to, wanted to know about that and then we also have some climate specific questions

too from, let's see see let us grow something so

college you want to kind of just give everyone the overview of this gutter system that

you've set up yeah absolutely so it is a well like you said it's a a shape so it's a frame we build that out of you know

framing studs basically so I used to set like three by one and a half by 8 or it's framing stunts. So for price for convenience. So we built that. They have 5 levels on each side. First levels is about 18 inches off the ground just to give us that kind of protection and that's it so we have five gutters which are basically

Rain gutters so these channels the ones I have right now are four inch

the four inch model I'm going with the five inch we'll talk about that and these are

basically designed to grow all the small plant even medium plants but all the

high value small plants that farm grow that really have a lot of trouble.

That basically to sum it up that basically cost a lot of money for whatever reason to grow because

they're small they can't compete or they're too slow or the opportunity cost of doing that in a

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