Oh, Andrew, old friend. It's been a minute.

It has been a minute. How have you been?

I've been good. I've been good.

You're back with a doozy of a story, one that you and I have worked on off and on again for a few years now.

You and I have both traveled a lot for work

and found ourselves in communities that are really different from our own.

And I'm curious, like, through all that travel,

whether you found something that connects all those experiences,

something you've unifying, like something you've learned.

Yeah, I have been thinking about this question.

And I think what I've learned throughout my travels is that people take pride in their place.

It doesn't matter sort of how rich or poor people are or how urban or rural or far away

people are. People take pride in where they are from, usually. And it's something that I find

sort of noble and in some regards enviable. If you spend your life on the road, you don't have a lot

of pride in a certain

place. And anytime I find people that are like, I've lived here for 40 years, I think that's

cool. What about you? Well, I guess the older I get, I'm less confident in any sort of my

own opinions. But I would have to say, I think,

if there's one learning, it's like when you visit those places, right, like, when you end up in a

community, and sometimes that community's struggling, and then sometimes they're succeeding. And I

would say that either direction doesn't happen by accident. There's an element to it that has been sort of worked on or

designed. And sometimes when a community is struggling, I feel like that that person that's

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