What is up you sexy bastards? It's your boy Jupak, aka Ravakan-Liz, aka Noah Kagan.

In today's episode, I talk to Sean Delaney of MCTCO.

Sean is the co-fender at MCTCO, and they are one of my favorite bars I eat them on the regular and I feature them in my 31 days of giveaways

He texted me the other day to say hey let's talk about marketing and how to grow online sales even faster for an e-commerce business.

So if you wanted to learn about that, you're going to enjoy the show.

In this conversation there's three major things.

Number one, customer growth versus product growth.

Number two, getting your very first customers for e-commerce, and

number three, learning from other industries with specific examples to start with.

Enjoy those three things plus a bunch more ear nuggets along the way.

Before we jump into the conversation, go check out Hall Drop.com.

That's H-A-U-L-D-O-L-D-O-D-O-D-O-D-O-Dekedek of our new product.

It is the product hunt for e-commerce products.

We're basically promoting the dopest products. Go check it out at halldrop.com.

Also a special pre-show shout out to listener Carapotamus. I love the name. She left a review saying definitely worth checking

out always a few good morsels. Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate it. If you want a shout

out in a future episode just go leave an iTunes review I check every single one of them

All right well let's talk MCT bars so it's MCT co.com how long you guys been doing it so this has been a process for call it two and a half years,

but the new flavors of the bars you've tasted.

We've relaunched that, reformulated so those dropped in June.

So how do you come up with the bar? I think that thing I'm actually

most in front of, I'm like how does he get the packaging? So other co-bounds in the

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