Hey there it's JVL on the secret show with Sarah Longwell today.

We talked about the big collapse of Joe Biden's campaign.

It's a super not cheerful.

Here's the show. We don't do this often.

We don't do this often.

But this, we're doing this show for us.

This is a, this is a Sarah and JVL need to have a therapy session and get some stuff off of our chest. It's going to be self-indulgent.

And so just, if that's going to bother you, you don't have to listen to this one.

We'll catch you next week. We'll do deep dives on news and stuff.

But, uh, but you know know it's been a it's been a week boy has it been a

a week and we we have been taking I would say not abuse but a fair amount of criticism from from both people out in the world and from many of our many of our subscribers and even like really close

email and correspondence and friends and I I don't know I just feel like we should be

able to talk about that a little bit.

Let's do it. I would like to talk about it.

Let's have our bitch fest.

So I don't know. Do you want to start? Do you want me to start what's what's on your mind?

So in keeping with actually most of our shows I will describe all the pieces that are in my head that I haven't put

pen to paper on. So I guess I'll start with the piece that I've been I feel the

most committed to writing which is entitled which is the real fantasy politics like

who's really playing fantasy politics okay because one of the criticisms that

I've been getting that is specific to me for people who listen is that I accuse you on the semi-regular of playing fantasy politics.

And one of the things that people have really internalized from the campaign's

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