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And what a horrific thing to approach enormous scandal. It really is one of the most

devastating horrific scandals of modern British political history. But because of the fact that it makes you feel a bit icky, you don't want to touch it. And it's going to have the same, this weak leadership again, it's because they're thinking about it through this politician's lens rather than an ordinary person's lens. It's actually going to have the opposite effect of the one that they want to have. It's going to cost them votes.

But going after an Israeli for the fact that they might have served in the IDF is like singling out of Brit for paying a TV license. It's compulsory. Hello and welcome to the Spike podcast. I'm Fraser Myers. Delighted to be joined as ever in the studio with Spike's editor, Tom Slater. Hello. and absolutely thrilled to be joined down the line by former British army officer Andrew Fox.

Andrew, welcome.

Thank you very much.

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