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Guaranteed Human.

This podcast discusses sexual assault.

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All of a sudden, there he is standing there with this very abrupt information that, you know, I find you attractive.

I think you're beautiful.

I want to kiss you.

It's very confusing.

I mean, our brain is just on a cognitive level,

trying to make sense of what's unfolding right now.

And then all of a sudden we might find ourselves going along with it.

Now we've shared a kiss.

There usually is a feeling that there's a point of no return.

Yeah. no return. I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is betrayal.

Episode 9.

During the course of our series betrayal, we learned that Jennifer's then-husband Spencer

had dozens of affairs and sexually assaulted one of his students.

Rachel, the student, bravely recounted her experience on an earlier episode.

She painstakingly recounted how a trusted adult in her life groomed her by first becoming

a trusted mentor and confidant to a sexual predator.

It was hard to hear about a lesson in how adults manipulate children. I think I was more confused with a grown adult telling me that they had these feelings for me, that you see it in movies, you know, when someone confesses their feelings.

And as a kid, it's shocking when someone tells you at the time that they love you and they have these feelings for you that they don't want to hide and that you're special.

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