Summary
Welcome to the season 2 finale! This season has been all about words entering a dark tunnel and coming out on the other end looking completely different. And nothing better encapsulates that than "groomer". As a word that defines a process rather than an outcome, this one is notoriously hard to pin down. It occupies a legal and colloquial grey area which leaves it dangerously vulnerable to misuse. "Groomer" was invented to protect children from abuse but, as so often the case with misused terminology, marginalized people have been harmed as a result (and even children themselves). This episode covers delicate subject matter - please listen at your own discretion.
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SOURCES:
EJ Dickson, “The Problem With How We Talk About Grooming” Rolling Stone (2021).
“Grooming: Know the Warning Signs” RAINN (2020).
https://www.rainn.org/news/grooming-know-warning-signs
Genyue Fu and Kang Lee, “Social grooming in the kindergarten: the emergence of flattery behavior” Developmental Science, Vol. 10 (2) (2007).
David J. Ley, “Misuse and Abuse of the Term Grooming Hurts Victims” Psychology Today (2022).
“Understanding Sexual Grooming in Child Abuse Cases”, American Bar Association (ABA).
Ann Wolbert Burgess and Carol R. Hartman, “On the Origin of Grooming” Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Vol. 33(1) (2018).
https://calio.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/on-the-origin-of-grooming.pdf
2001. Coercion and Enticement (18 U.S.C. 2422). The United States Department of Justice Archives.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello? Hello, we just had lunch. We did. Would you say it was good? Yes, it was a bean salad. The thing is, though, I take this bean salad with me everywhere and it's in a Tupperware, but it has a lot of onions in it, and I fear that it makes my breast smell gross. |
| 0:16.1 | Well, thank God I'm like across a table from you, so I'm not getting any whiffs of your disgusting onion |
| 0:20.8 | breath. I mean, you're drinking coffee. It's basically the same thing. May I also had a scone? |
| 0:27.0 | I did, and I had it with Carrie Gold Butter. Do you want to tell the listeners what Carrie Gold Butter is? |
| 0:31.8 | Yeah, Carrie Gold Butter is Irish grass-fed butter that is truly my favorite thing in the world. Like, it's actually, |
| 0:40.6 | like if you were to make a starter pack of me, would have to be there. It's such a treat. |
| 0:45.1 | It's like she's asking us to make a starter pack of her. You actually made one of me when we were |
| 0:50.1 | both living in Montreal. Yeah, when we were like little babies. What was on it again? |
| 0:54.6 | It was canned sangria. Um, poop earrings. Probably, yeah. I don't know what else. I'm sure it was |
| 1:01.9 | hilarious. If we were to make a starter pack of each other now, what would it be? I would put on |
| 1:06.6 | yours, carry gold butter, a really, really big red backpack. Rude. Because Anna carries around this |
| 1:14.6 | backpack that's so big. It makes her look so silly. I haven't in years. I used to like straight |
| 1:19.4 | up bully her when we went to, we were going to the same university for a little bit. And she made |
| 1:24.3 | fun of me and now I'm scarred and I don't ever use my backpack. |
| 1:27.7 | She made me feel like such a loser. |
| 1:29.2 | Good friends roast each other. |
| 1:31.8 | Nipping supplies. |
| 1:33.8 | A cup of lukewarm coffee with like two supremely melted ice cubes in it. |
| 1:40.5 | Okay. |
| 1:42.0 | And oh, and like a prairie dress. or some like 70s style like patchwork pants. |
| 1:48.3 | Yeah, that's fair. Oh, and either Sophia Kobola, like a still from the Virgin Suicides or from Lady Bird. |
| 1:54.8 | Okay, roast me. I love that about you. Oh, and like Fleetwood Mac me. Yeah. Okay. For you, I would put Mooney. I would put |
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