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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Grok 4 Wows, The Bitter Lesson, Elon’s Third Party, AI Browsers, SCOTUS backs POTUS on RIFs

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

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4.27.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2025

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) The Besties welcome Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois!

(3:02) Travis on Pony.ai / Uber rumors and the state of Cloud Kitchens

(18:51) xAI launches Grok 4, learning "The Bitter Lesson" in AI

(40:36) How Grok can catch ChatGPT in usage, OpenAI's product excellence

(46:27) Perplexity and OpenAI building AI-native browsers and taking on Chrome

(58:01) Elon's "America Party": is now the right time for a third party, and could he make an impact in 2026?

(1:13:12) SCOTUS backs Trump over federal government RIF plans

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Referenced in the show:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/technology/uber-travis-kalanick-self-driving-car-deal.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW5fJikPmfM

https://grok.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wTA90BYo30

https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data

https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1943192643439337753

http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html

https://x.com/chamath/status/1943177837956968499

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/perplexity-launches-comet-an-ai-powered-web-browser

https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1942969263305671143

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930

https://polymarket.com/event/will-elon-register-the-america-party-by

https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows

https://news.gallup.com/poll/651278/support-third-political-party-dips.aspx

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative

https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-implement-plans-to-significantly-reduce-the-federal-workforce

https://www.afge.org/article/summary-of-afge-lawsuits-against-trump--how-litigation-works

https://cei.org/publication/10kc-2025-numbers-of-rules

https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/american-manhunt-osama-bin-laden-release-date-news

Transcript

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0:00.0

I have a very funny story to tell you, Jason.

0:02.3

Where have you been?

0:03.1

I've been trying to text you.

0:04.2

You've been offline.

0:05.0

What's going on?

0:05.6

Where have you been?

0:06.5

I've been working feverishly, but yesterday I had to go to prepare for some meetings that I have

0:14.3

on Sunday, which I can't tell you about.

0:16.5

But Nat and I went to Pasalakwa, which is in Lake Como, which is an in, I mean, it's stunning.

0:24.9

The grounds are stunning.

0:26.5

The hotel is stunning.

0:27.6

If you have a chance to go to Lake Como, anyways, this is us at Pasolakwa.

0:32.7

Who's the beautiful woman there?

0:34.1

Is that the woman who owns it or something?

0:36.2

Is that the queen?

0:36.7

No, that's not.

0:39.9

But the best part is we had such a good time.

0:42.7

You know how they have like a registry book to leave a message?

0:43.3

Sure.

0:44.9

So I left a message.

0:47.2

Here we go.

0:53.1

What a truly magnificent place above and beyond any expectation we had.

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