meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Great Women Artists

Griselda Pollock on Alina Szapocznikow

The Great Women Artists

Katy Hessel

Arts

4.8 • 944 Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

In episode 50 (!!!) of The Great Women Artists Podcast, Katy Hessel interviews the legendary, trailblazing, feminist art history ICON, GRISELDA POLLOCK on the pioneering Polish Jewish artist, Alina Szapocznikow.  [This episode is brought to you by Alighieri jewellery: www.alighieri.co.uk | use the code TGWA at checkout for 10% off!] Author, editor, curator, and Professor, Griselda Pollock's 43-year-plus career as an art historian is nothing short of LEGENDARY. Having co-authored (with Rozsika Parker), “Old Mistresses: Women, Art and Ideology”, written 26 books, and edited many more, Pollock's indefatigable career has seen her spend decades developing an international, queer, postcolonial, feminist analysis of art’s diverse histories. Writing extensively on artists Eva Hesse, Lubaina Himid, Georgia O’Keeffe, to Tracey Emin, Pollock has curated numerous museum exhibitions, made several films, and has two forthcoming publications out for release.  But the reason why we are speaking to Griselda today is because as well as being a social and feminist historian of  19th and 20th century and contemporary art she is also a transdisciplinary cultural analyst focussing in Cultural Studies and Jewish studies, which is where her fantastic, tireless work on the great sculptor, Alina Szapocznikow comes into play. Born in Poland to an intellectual Jewish family of doctors in 1926, Alina Szapocznikow survived internment in concentration camps during the Holocaust as a teenager. [TW: we discuss The Holocaust]. At her liberation in 1945, she moved first to Prague, and then to Paris, where she studied sculpture and took up a job at a stonemasons, and then was forced back to Poland in 1951 after suffering from tuberculosis. When the Polish government loosened controls over creative freedom following Stalin’s death in 1952, Szapocznikow moved into figurative abstraction and then a pioneering form of representation. By the 1960s, she was radically re-conceptualizing sculpture as an intimate record not only of her memory, but also of her own body. First casting parts of the body as fragments, on her return to Paris as part of 'Nouveau Realisme', she began to move into casting bulbous shapes cast in resin from human bellies, lipstick red lips, nipples and lips growing from slender stems like flowers and serving as lamps. Surrounded by an artistic community that included Niki de Saint Phalle and more, in this episode we discuss Szapocznikow's incredible life and career, her involvement in the evolution of new materials and new ways of thinking, whilst simultaneously trying to deal with the horrors of the past – as with her American contemporaries, Eva Hesse, Louise Bourgeois, and Hannah Wilke.  AS's Self Portrait: https://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2012/alina-szapocznikow-sculpture-undone-1955-1972 Photosculptures (chewing gum): https://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2012/alina-szapocznikow-sculpture-undone-1955-1972 Lamp works: https://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2012/alina-szapocznikow-sculpture-undone-1955-1972 Tumour series: https://hammer.ucla.edu/exhibitions/2012/alina-szapocznikow-sculpture-undone-1955-1972 Further images and information: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/16711-alina-szapocznikow?modal=media-player&mediaType=artwork&mediaId=16719 Follow us: Katy Hessel: @thegreatwomenartists / @katy.hessel Sound editing by Laura Hendry  Artwork by @thisisaliceskinner Music by Ben Wetherfield https://www.thegreatwomenartists.com/

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Great Woman Artist's podcast. I hope you are all doing well.

0:07.0

I am really delighted that this episode is sponsored by one of my favourite jewellery brands, Alighieri.

0:14.0

During this difficult time, Alighieri will be donating 10% of all online sales to refuge, the country's largest provider of support to women

0:24.0

and children escaping domestic violence. Alligieri is also offering 10% off for great women

0:30.8

artist listeners with the code TGWA at checkout. See www.

0:38.4

alegieri. dot co.com for more.

0:40.6

Here are a few words from their founder,

0:42.7

Rosh Matani,

0:43.6

and I hope you enjoy this episode.

0:47.3

I wanted to tell you a little bit

0:49.0

about how we make our jewelry at Alighieri.

0:52.1

We make everything in wax. I sculpt them like mini sculptures and carry

0:57.0

them by hand like fragile little creatures to our castors in London's Hatchen Garden. Our castors

1:02.8

are an amazing family-run business and they take this little wax and transform it through

1:07.6

the ancient art of lost wax casting, whereby the wax is transformed

1:11.9

into recycled bronze and silver before being gold-plated and finding its way to you.

1:20.9

Hello everyone and welcome to the Great Women Artists podcast with me, Katie Hessel. Some of you might know me from The Great Women Artist podcast with me, Katie Hessel.

1:29.0

Some of you might know me from The Great Women Artists, an Instagram account I set up in October 2015,

1:34.6

which celebrates female artists on a daily basis, ranging from young graduates to old masters.

1:40.8

Well, in a similar fashion to the Instagram, this podcast is all about celebrating female

1:45.9

artists from a variety of backgrounds and histories.

1:49.0

And I am so excited to be interviewing artists on their career or artists, writers, curators

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Katy Hessel, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Katy Hessel and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.