Welcome to the Not Old Better Show, Good Housekeeping, interview series on radio and podcast.

The show covering all things health, wellness, culture, kitchen, cooking, and more.

The show for all of us who aren't old, we're better.

Each week, we'll interview superstars, experts, and ordinary people,

doing extraordinary things, all related to this wonderful experience of getting better, not just older.

Now here's your host, the award-winning Paul Vogelzang.

What do you really know about the products you use every day? At good housekeeping, it's not guest work, it's science.

In this special interview series, we sit down with the experts behind the lab doors, the

scientists, the analysts, the pros who test everything from sneakers

to saucepants. These aren't ads, just so you know. These are facts backed by 100 years of

trusted testing. Welcome to the brand new, not old better show, good housekeeping interview

series where smarter living starts with knowing more.

I'm Paul Polklesang, and today's episode is about sparking flames.

Yep, not just on the grill, but in your imagination, your backyard, and around your dinner table.

Now I know we've all been there, charcoal or gas, smoky or sweet, traditional, or techie.

These aren't just cooking choices.

They're practically lifestyle statements.

And who better to help us navigate this deliciously smoking terrain than today's wonderful guest, Nicole Popp Antonio, the innovative and insightful director of good housekeeping's kitchen

appliances and innovation lab. Nicole's culinary journey spans rigorous product testing. We're

going to talk about that. Nicole has this really impressive nutritional expertise and the

artistry of recipe creation.

Nicole knows what it takes to master the grill, and believe me, she's tested them all,

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