Hey deserving listeners, two days ago I published an episode in which I talked about grief theory.

It was for patrons only.

I went into detail on Freud, a little bit on Melanie Klein, a lot into the dual process and other kinds of issues and so listen to that

episode and in this episode I'm going to answer emails about grief so let's

get into it. This first question is from Superfan Louise, she writes,

Grief feels similar to depression,

except for the way grief can come in intense waves

when you least expect it. How is grief related to

depression? Great question. Louise, it's complicated, it kind of depends on the

definition of depression that we use and also how one understands depression and also the definition of grief and how one understands grief.

These are constructs in psychology.

They're, the definite, we construct the definition

and then we apply it.

It's a model, it's a model of how to look at people and how to categorize people.

Depression is a very varied thing.

You know, there's a lot of different experiences that we will call depression and grief as well.

There's a lot of different people who we would categorize as experiencing grief, grief emotionality, grief-reactivity, who are very different from each other, right?

So of course there's going to be some overlap and categorically and diagnostically if we were to use the diagnosis of complicated grief,

there's a lot of comorbidity between complicated grief and depression.

Some would say that if you are depressed going through an complicated grief process,

that the depressive symptoms are just a part of the complicated grief.

Other people would say that they're different. So really to answer your

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