Grief Author Murder Trial: Pill Popping Testimony Leads to Fiery Exchange
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4.3 • 3.7K Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2026
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Summary
Week three of the Kouri Richins trial began with some fireworks in the courtroom. While the jury was dismissed, Kouri Richins defense attorney tried to convince the judge Eric Richins’ business partner impeached himself regarding Eric’s alleged drug use in high school. After a testy back and forth about “red devil” pills, the judge made his ruling, frustrating the defense, which claimed Eric’s alleged “illicit drug” issue proves Kouri is innocent.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:06.1 | Hey there, folks. |
| 0:07.1 | It is Monday, March 9th, and the third week of the so-called grief author murder trial is underway. |
| 0:15.3 | And whoo! |
| 0:16.1 | There was some fireworks in the courtroom today, and the jury wasn't even around to hear it with that. |
| 0:22.4 | Welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Let's start with this first. Do you know what a red devil is when it comes to a pill called a red devil? |
| 0:29.1 | You know what that is? It doesn't sound good. It doesn't sound legal and it sounds dangerous. |
| 0:33.6 | Does it sound familiar? It doesn't ring any bells, no. |
| 0:37.0 | No. |
| 0:38.3 | And actually, I just googled it because this has been a huge source of, or a huge topic of conversation |
| 0:44.3 | in the Cory Richens' grief author murder trial because, yes, the defense is trying to blame the victim |
| 0:52.3 | and trying to establish or is hoping to establish that Eric Richens, |
| 0:58.3 | the father of three, who died with fentanyl poisoning, was somehow some illicit drug user and |
| 1:06.7 | used something called Red Devil when he was in high school. When he was in high school is the key nugget there. |
| 1:12.8 | When he was in high school. |
| 1:13.9 | Yes, folks, the third week of this trial is underway. |
| 1:16.7 | I mean, if you know the story by now, but this is happening out in Utah. |
| 1:19.4 | Yes, Corrie Richens wrote a children's book to help kids deal with grief. |
| 1:24.2 | And she wrote it after, according to prosecutors, she killed her own husband by |
| 1:28.8 | poisoning him with fentanyl by putting it into his drink. So Roves, the first day of this trial |
| 1:35.2 | when they did opening statements. You and I did an episode, and it was one of the first things |
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