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God, giant please, for man. Seven, six, everybody. Welcome to another insightful of Smart People a Podcast. This is Chris Stemp, and this is John Rojas. Today we're going to take all of you guys along on a little journey of happiness, as I'm going to call it.

And this is happiness without the use of drugs and alcohol.

How do you feel about that, Rich?

I don't know.

It just became to me.

I was feeling like one of those things.

We promise we are not at the Betty Ford Clinic. Anyways, now, after today's podcast, you might not

be happier, but it just gives you a little more insight. We interview one of the happiness

gurus, Gretchen Rubin. Gretchen is, among other things. She's an author

with a bestselling book, The Happiness Project. It was a New York Times bestseller, what,

like last year, Roach? Yeah, back in 2010. Yeah, she's also, she graduated from Yale, her undergrad, and she has her law degree from there.

She was editor-in-chief of the Yale Law Journal.

She clerked for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

And that's when she said, you know what, I want to be a writer.

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