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Fail Better with David Duchovny

Gretchen Rubin Wants to Make You Happy/ish

Fail Better with David Duchovny

Grace Cohen-Chen

Society & Culture

4.6534 Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

I’m no self-help guru. And while I don’t think Gretchen Rubin would identify as one, she’s dedicated her work to figuring out just what the hell it means to live a full life. As a writer and former lawyer, Gretchen has spent years trying to understand happiness, the ways she can access it herself, and how to bring others in on the wisdom she’s gained. We talk action-led thoughts and aphorisms — anything in pursuit of leaving a conversation feeling happy (or at least, as Gretchen would say, happier). Gretchen’s podcast, Happier with Gretchen Rubin, is now part of the Lemonada Media network and can be found wherever you listen to podcasts. Follow me on Instagram at @davidduchovny. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. And if you want to continue the conversation with other listeners, join the My Lemonada community at https://lemonadamedia.com/mylemonada/ For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's morning in New York.

0:02.8

Oh, God.

0:06.2

Hey, everybody.

0:07.3

I'm Mandy Patinkin.

0:08.7

And I'm Catherine Grady.

0:09.8

And we have a new podcast.

0:11.7

It's called Don't Listen to Us.

0:14.1

Many of you've asked for our advice.

0:16.1

Tell me, what is wrong with you people?

0:19.2

Don't listen to us.

0:20.3

Our Take It or Leave a Device show every Wednesday out now.

0:24.7

A Lemonada Media Original.

0:35.9

I'm David Dukovni, and this is Fail Better, a show where failure, not success, shapes who we are.

0:43.0

Gretchen Rubin is considered one of today's most influential observers of happiness and human nature.

0:48.7

She has a slate of New York Times bestselling books, including the Happiness Project, an award-winning app, and a hit podcast called Happier.

0:57.1

And Happier is now a part of Lemonada Media, which you might know is the same network that puts out this show.

1:04.0

Before she got into this work, Gretchen had a very successful law career, including advising the chairman of the FCC and clerking for Sandra Day O'Connor,

1:12.5

and she still just wasn't happy. Gretchen was in her 40s when she decided to research how to be

1:18.5

happier, and her approach has turned out to be pretty much the opposite from what we hear from

1:23.0

self-help gurus. Now Gretchen identifies primarily as a writer, which is obviously something I relate

1:29.6

to, but otherwise her work is pretty foreign to me. You know, she at least appears to be on the other

1:34.6

side of the spectrum from failure. But I knew she'd have a lot to say about ups and downs and maybe

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