From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

It's The Treatment.

And watching the movie Barbie, the line came to me,

we don't have to be constantly entertaining ourselves, do we?

It's another line written by the writer and director of Barbie, Greta Gerwig, that lines from her directorial debut, a little film called Lady Bird, for which I had a chance to speak to her a while back.

It's good to have her here.

Greta, thank you so much for doing this.

Thank you. I was

very caught off guard by you quoting another movie, but it really, that was very nice. Thank you.

That kind of characters trying to articulate their dissatisfaction. I mean, we can go back to

Francis Ha, but it's happened so often for you and then these people that you write.

That's true. I mean, I also think, you know, the kind of the character in Lady Bird who says, you know, do we have to be constantly entertaining ourselves?

I actually think the Barbie experience of the movie is so, you know, maximalist because Barbie is so maximalist. I think that character

of Marion might have something to say about it. That idea for these characters who are summing up

their place in the world as often as not, but again, trying to figure out what it is as making them unhappy in

some way they can't quite articulate and needing a moment to breathe, looking for that,

that respite. That's something dealing with over, a kind of environmental overcrowding is something

that's kind of home for you, isn't it? I always thought about Barbie as almost like in the beginning,

where we are and the way we designed it visually

and kind of thought about it was that, you know,

it was taking the inspiration from the actual toys,

like the dream houses, but that there would be literally

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