This is a global original podcast.

Given the subject matter, some of what follows is obviously very upsetting and some of the

descriptions are quite graphic.

So please be aware.

Hello and welcome to a rather extraordinary episode of Full Discozier, a podcast project that was, of course, set up by me, James O'Brien, to allow myself a little more time than is ordinarily available with people that I find very interesting.

And the reason why this one is extraordinary, even though my guest this week fits absolutely into the category I've described,

is because it's highly possible that you won't recognize the name that I am about to share with

you. So let me begin by welcoming Edward Daffan to the studio and thanking him for his time.

Edward, thank you.

You're welcome.

And then we should probably, you give me a moment to explain why I am so interested in talking to you.

It was, as everybody will remember, in the early hours of the 14th of June 2017,

reports began to emerge of a big fire in West London,

and it wasn't long before the site of the fire.

Grenfell Tower was being broadcast around the country,

and not long after that, pretty much every journalist in the land

discovered Edward's work with a sense, in my case, at least, of grisily disbelief, with a sense

of horror, actually, which was obviously small when compared to the horror we felt when

surveying the scene down in Notting Hill. But the horror was built upon the fact that

Edward's work had, I think it's fair to say, come very, very close to predicting the tragedy. And that is why perhaps

some of the coverage at the time, certainly in my case, was coloured by so much anger and so much

disbelief. Edward, is that a fair representation of the work that you and your colleagues

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