Grenfell: what have we learnt?

Beyond Today

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4.6 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2019

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

72 people died in the Grenfell Tower fire two years ago this week. Since then the first part of a public inquiry has taken place looking at the events of that night. The next phase, which will investigate why the 24-storey tower was wrapped in combustible cladding, will start next year. Kate Lamble from the BBC Grenfell Inquiry podcast tells what we have learnt so far. We also speak to Gill Kernick, who used to live in Grenfell Tower and works in risk management. She tells us what should be done to avoid this kind of disaster again. Produced by Philly Beaumont, Duncan Barber, Alicia Burrell Mixed by Nicolaus Raufast Editor: John Shields.

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.
0:06.6	Hello, I'm Matthew Price.
0:08.2	This is Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4,
0:10.8	a space to ask one big question about one big story.
0:15.0	Today, Grenfell, What have we learned? Yeah, hello, hi, in the fire is flat 16 greenfield power.
0:36.0	Sorry, a fire where?
0:38.0	A flat 16 greenfield tall.
0:40.0	In the police.
0:42.0	Right, hang on The flat 16. Right, hang on.
0:43.0	Flats'
0:45.0	And what's the post code?
0:47.0	W11-1G?
0:48.0	W11-T-T-T-T-T-T-T-G.
0:51.0	Yeah, but can you quick, please? Yeah, would he just, I have you quick please?
0:53.0	Yeah, would he just, I have to get the address, okay, Glens?
0:57.0	Platt 16 Brinkfield Todd, W11-1-TG.
1:00.0	It's still chilling listening to that phone call even two years on because we all know what happened.
1:06.0	72 people died as a result of the Grenfell Fire.
1:10.0	None of the survivors that I've spoken to since then have ever said that they believe they will truly move on, get over it, put it to rest.
1:19.0	This week, the anniversary of the fire, is an especially difficult time for them and for the community around the Grenfell Tower.
1:27.0	It's especially difficult for people like Jill Kurnick, who I met in the hours after the fire.
1:32.0	Jill and I have spoken a hours after the fire.
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