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Hi, I'm Stephen.

I'm Anouche.

And I'm Ava.

And on this week's New Statement Podcast, we discuss the Grenfell scandal four years on,

and you ask us, what is Boris Johnson's end game for the Northern Ireland Protocol?

We're recording on the full anniversary of the Grenfell Tower Fire, of course,

the deadliest domestic fire since the blitz, and inquiries of course still ongoing

as our various other means to seek justice.

It's an issue that is very important to us as a publication.

Anouche has written a very good piece that you should be able to read.

So we want to talk a bit about, to one of these things, I always struggle to,

whether or not to refer to it as a tragedy or to refer to it as a scandal.

As the person who's led up most of our coverage on the Grenfell Tower scandal,

if you could first give us an update of where we currently are on it.

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