Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's Twice Weekly podcast on leadership with Scott Miller.

That's me, just shy of seven years, nearly 500 episodes that we tape and air on Tuesdays and Fridays,

both audio and video, where we interview some of the world's most remarkable people,

researchers, scientists, academics, professors, creators, artists, celebrities, actors,

CEOs, people from all walks of life that have dedicated much of their life,

their profession, to helping you become a more effective leader, to become someone who discovers,

uncovers, and ignites their own purpose. And as leaders, ignites the purpose and passion and

talents and genius of others that are in your care, in your stewardship.

Same for parents and humans that are just trying to be more effective.

Franklin Covey, of course, is the sponsor of this podcast and known to millions around the

world as the world's most trusted leadership firm, founded in part by Dr. Stephen R. Covey

40 years ago, he wrote many seminal books, including

the seven habits of highly effective people. I think he'd be very proud of how this podcast

has endured and highlighted many people that he would see the world very similarly to.

Our guest today is a professor at Stanford. His name is Dr. Greg Walton, and he's just today released a new book titled Ordinary Magic,

the Science of How We Can Achieve Big Change with Small Acts.

Greg is the co-director of the Dweck, as in Carol Dweck, Dweck Walton Lab at Stanford.

Dr. Walton, welcome to On Leadership. Hey, thank you so much for having me.

Okay, so first of all, I have to ask you, how does someone become the co-director of the Dweck-Waltin Lab?

Because I don't know that anybody has left.

In the world, it doesn't know who Carol Dwek is, her research and writing around growth mindset.

Talk a little bit about your association with Carol and your role at Stanford as a professor.

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