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Hi, everyone.

I'm Hillary Kerr, the co-founder and chief content officer of Who What Where, and this is Second Life, a podcast spotlighting women who have truly

inspiring careers. We're talking about their work journeys, what they've learned from the

process of setting aside their doubts or fears, and what happens when they embark on their

second life. Today on the show, I'm speaking with Greg Renfrew, a friend of the pod,

and the founder of Beauty Counter, which is now called Counter. More on that later.

We all know Beauty Counter as the original makeup brand that pioneered what we know today as the

clean beauty movement. Greg founded Beauty Counter in 2013 and the brand skyrocketed to success, garnering respect

for its commitment to using safe ingredients and saying no to any questionable or harmful

chemicals.

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