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The Good Fight

Greg Lukianoff on How to Build a Culture of Free Speech

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Greg Lukianoff is president of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) and the co-author, with Jonathan Haidt, of The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure. Lukianoff is also co-author of the forthcoming The Canceling of the American Mind: Cancel Culture Undermines Trust and Threatens Us All—But There Is a Solution. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Greg Lukianoff discuss the state of free speech culture on America’s campuses and in society more broadly; FIRE’s progress litigating against coercive legislation in Florida and elsewhere; and the need to foster cultural habits that uphold individual expression. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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History.

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What does this make you think of?

0:04.0

Swords, armor, castles, cannons, trenches, tanks, tanks?

0:10.0

Or perhaps it makes you think of bravery, courage, resistance.

0:15.6

We shall fight on the beaches and in the streets.

0:19.6

Uncover a thousand years of incredible defensive stories.

0:23.4

A brand new series, Defending Europe, Mondays at 9 on National Geographic. You're going to. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:47.0

Hi, this is Freddie de Boer. I recently wrote a piece for persuasion titled

0:58.0

Human Suck at Seeing into the Future. It's an argument about artificial intelligence using the lens of the growth of nuclear

1:07.4

power and then the death of nuclear power in the 20th and 21st century.

1:12.0

It's an argument about the contingency of history and that we can never really tell from the past what's going to happen in the future.

1:18.0

I wrote this piece because I feel that the mainstream coverage of artificial intelligence has been wildly irresponsible in that

1:26.1

it tends to be divided almost purely between utopianism so AI will save us all and

1:31.7

apocalypticism AI is going to kill us all. I think the reality is almost

1:36.2

certainly in between those two extremes and that AI will be a powerful set of technologies with that they won't fundamentally alter the basic human

1:44.8

experience.

1:46.8

Freddie DeBoer's piece called Human Suck at Seeing Into the Future was published by Persuasion. To learn more about the community

1:54.6

we're building at persuasion and to get similar articles directly into your inbox

1:59.5

head to www dotuasion community.

2:06.0

My guess today is Greg Luciano.

2:09.0

Greg is the president of Fire, the foundation for individual rights and expression, an organization

2:17.5

I greatly admire for stepping into the breach of defending the First Amendment in free speech in a clear and principled way

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