Welcome to the Eric McTaxis show with your host, Eric Metaxus.

Hey there, folks. I get to talk to my friend Pastor Greg Lorry. And if you're nice, you get to listen in.

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for example, what we're wearing. My goodness, that is a magnificent

buff waistcoat you're wearing Greg Lorry. How are you? It's called a jean jacket. Thank you very much.

Buff waistcoat. A buff waistcoat? Well, wait a minute. What is that the tricorn hat with the

cockade and the, no, no, I'm sorry that's wrong you're that's why you

need to watch the video because they would not know this if they had not seen technically the term

for the hat you're wearing i realize is a busby uh that's the the horse guard uh at the buckingham

palace they wear busbies well listen gregg you're a pastor in California, your friend of

mine. So my instinct, of course, is to joke unto death. So I'm going to try to shut up and be a normal

host. You have written a lot of books. So you're pastor, but you write these amazing books.

Tell us about the three books you've written and the new one about Billy Graham. What is this, what are they called? The series, what's it called? Well, we called

them basically icons of faith. And so basically I'm looking at the lives of interesting people.

I didn't sit out to write three books on notable people, but it started with Steve McQueen,

and I'd always heard that McQueen had become a Christian later in his life.

But I wasn't sure if that was true, so it started with the Google search, Steve McQueen,

comma, Christian.

And I started finding a lot of information about his life.

His pastor was mentioned. So I thought, well, I wonder if this guy Leonard DeWitt, his pastor was mentioned.

So I thought, well, I wonder if this guy, Leonard DeWitt, the pastor of C. McQueen

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