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Love to See It with Emma and Claire

‘Greatest Seasons Ever: Kaitlyn Bristowe’ with Jonathan Holloway + Kupah James

Love to See It with Emma and Claire

Claire Fallon, Emma Gray

Tv & Film

4.35.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2020

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

This week, we go back to where it all started – for this podcast that is. Kaitlyn’s season was the first one that Here to Make Friends recapped, all the way back in 2015.

By then, The Bachelor was more consistently casting people of color on the show – but they didn’t often get far or have very positive portrayals on the show. Of Kaitlyn’s contestants of color, only Ian Thomson – who had a very rough exit – got any real screen time during Monday’s recap. Once again, the supercut approach made the show even whiter.

But Ian wasn’t the only Black man to have a very unflattering storyline on the show. Kupah James left at the beginning of episode four, after a painful conversation with Kaitlyn about their lack of connection and a dramatic exit interview. Jonathan Holloway, a soft-spoken single dad, made it a bit further despite being #TeamBritt. To find out more about that messy exit and what it was like in Kaitlyn’s Bachelorette mansion, we talked to Kupah and Jonathan about their time on the show.

It may seem like the protests are simmering down, or at least like they’re out of the news cycle or your Twitter feed. But people are still in the streets, fighting for a better world, and it’s incumbent on us to stay tuned in and to keep doing what we can. As promised, we are going to give our community calls to action each week:

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Transcript

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0:00.0

We were having conversations in these Ix-y-m's they call them Ix-y-m's in the moments where you talk about your experience

0:05.1

I forgot about those. Yeah, Ix-y-m's right it was like it was it was therapy it was therapy on the show so

0:11.2

We would do that they can then clip together so you look like a asshole

0:16.9

Can't the cry in there too

0:23.0

Welcome to here to make friends a half-post podcast about the bachelor franchise

0:27.8

Where we lovingly snark on the bachelor and bachelor adjacent shows whether you love the bachelor or love to hate it

0:34.6

We're here to break down every single delicious moment with you. I'm Emma Gray and I'm Claire Fallon

0:44.7

This week on the bachelor the greatest seasons ever we go back to where it all started this podcast

0:52.9

That is because Caitlin season

0:55.6

Was the first one that here to make friends recap all the way back in 2015. It's our five-year anniversary

1:01.3

Emma happy anniversary

1:03.5

Wow those were really the days and Chris Harrison kicks off this little blast from the past by commenting

1:10.5

That 2015 was when the world met Caitlin Jenner and of course another Caitlin Caitlin Bristow that Chris always so

1:19.5

culturally

1:21.6

Yeah, it's really I don't know great timing to remind us all that the bachelor would

1:27.0

Never cast a trans person at least in its current incarnation though it will apparently reference one is like oh wacky

1:33.3

Celeb news item from five years ago

1:37.0

I mean this week the Trump administration rolled back protections for trans health care

1:43.5

On a slightly happier note the Supreme Court declared that the 1964 civil rights act protections do apply to

1:50.7

LGBTQ people

1:54.0

Which is amazing news and surprising I think given the makeup of the court

2:01.0

You know Claire, I think we need to take the wins where we can

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