This is the full conversation. No cuts, no breaks — the complete story of Greater Grace World Outreach told by two people who lived inside it and survived.

Elita Galvin didn't choose Greater Grace. She was born into the original location in southern Maine at four months old. Her father was violent. Church leaders knew and responded with pastoral shuffling and scripture-backed silence. She grew up, got out, and eventually started the Looking for Grace podcast to investigate and document the organization that shaped her entire childhood.

Oscar walked into Greater Grace as an adult with a career, a mind of his own, and every reason to believe he was making a free choice. He spent years inside before leaving in 2004. Twenty years later, he joins us audio-only under a pseudonym because the religious trauma is still present enough that reading the GRACE report makes him physically ill.

Together they cover the full arc. How Greater Grace operates as a system of control — love bombing, identity suppression, manufactured language, total life integration. How its theology was built to silence dissent — teachings that made reporting abuse a spiritual failure and accountability the real sin. What the 172-page independent investigation found — alleged abuse across decades, what investigators described as an institutional cover-up, and a recommendation that the top four leaders be removed. And what's happened since — a vague response from leadership, no timeline for change, and a resignation from an evangelical financial accountability organization rather than face governance review.

If you know the IBLP and Duggar story, Greater Grace is the organization running the same playbook that most people have never heard of. After this conversation, that changes.

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