Okay, here we got. Stand by. Three, two, one.

The thinking atheist, it's not a person. It's a symbol. An idea.

The population of atheists in this country is going through the room.

Rejecting faith. Pursuing knowledge. Challenging the sacred.

If I tell the truth, it's because I tell the truth,

not because I put my hand on a book and made a wish.

And working together for a more rational world.

Take the risk of thinking for yourself.

Much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.

Assume nothing.

Question everything. Assume nothing. Question everything and start thinking.

This is the Thinking Atheist podcast, hosted by Seth Andrews.

Dr. Aaron Rabinowitz is the ethics director at the Creator Accountability Network, of which I am privileged to be a part. He's also a podcast host for Embrace the Void and Philosophers in Space.

Dr. Aaron, he's a buddy, so I like to call him Dr.

Aaron, what's your area of expertise and focus? What do you do?

Yeah, so I'm primarily an ethicist. I'm interested in moral education and especially the topic

of luck and how people think about luck, but I also really am interested in things like

AI ethics, skepticism, you know, I come from our shared atheist background, so I'm interested

in moral arguments and philosophical arguments as they relate to atheism as well.

Let me throw this question at you because it was thrown at me recently. Somebody called,

he was a Christian. We were talking about if someone does something hateful to someone else,

how would an atheist call that wrong? Because let's say it benefits me to do something hateful,

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