Bob, thank you for being here. Bob and John, thank you for joining us for this Q&A time.

We have some good questions that have been written in and others tweeted in.

And let's pray and ask for God's help in this short season of questions and answers.

Father in heaven, would you help us now? Lead us to what would be most helpful for the body of Christ,

for worship leaders who would be here.

Would you help John and Bob in their responses and in thinking through the theology and practice

that we'll want to ask about in this session?

Would Jesus be glorified and would the saints be helped in this time?

In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

John, you seem to perhaps talk from experience at some point about not being on the same page with a worship leader.

Whether that has been the case or not, would there be advice you would have for preachers or church leaders who aren't on the same page with their worship leader as they try to navigate that season they're in.

For the younger, and maybe that would be anybody under 50, I don't know, patience is going to be absolutely crucial.

The pulpit is a very powerful place.

It's the kind of power that's not organizational.

It's not manipulative.

It's not political.

It's the word of God fed into the people's lives week after week.

It's the most powerful place to bring about theological spiritual change. And so if you're the preaching pastor, you have a golden place.

And you want to not be strident about issues and you want to not be hobby horses, you want to be biblical through

and through and God-centered. And over time, the people that don't like that, they tend to drift

away, and the people that are hungry for that tend to come. And a critical mass develops. So that's

one crucial way. That may take a long time if it's a church totally not

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