Grandparenting as Paid Labor?
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Brian Laird on WNYC, now we'll look at one solution to the child care affordability crisis |
| 0:16.6 | that might seem obvious to people living outside the United States, in many cases, pay grandparents. |
| 0:24.0 | What? |
| 0:24.8 | Yes, pay grandparents. |
| 0:27.1 | Marina Lopez, author of Please Yell at My Kids, a Guide for Americans Seeking to Learn from Parenting |
| 0:33.0 | Cultures Around the World, has a new piece in the Atlantic that suggests that Americans looking for |
| 0:38.3 | affordable, high-quality child care should consider paying their parents to watch their kids |
| 0:43.7 | using Singapore as an example where this model is not only successful but extremely popular. |
| 0:49.5 | Marina joins us now to make her case and maybe take some of your stories or questions. Marina, |
| 0:55.7 | thanks for coming on for this. Welcome to WNYC. Thank you so much for having me on, Brian. |
| 1:00.7 | And listeners, we can open up the phones for you right away. Do you already have any form of |
| 1:06.1 | this kind of arrangement in your family? Do you pay grandparents to watch your kids? Or are you a grandparent |
| 1:12.6 | who receives a stipend from your adult child in exchange for childcare? 212-433, WNYC, 212, 433, |
| 1:23.1 | 9-6-92? What are the terms and conditions of your agreement? If you want to shout them out at all, |
| 1:29.0 | how much are you paying or are you paid, how often, what kind of caretaking is involved? |
| 1:34.4 | 212-433-9692. And Marina, I guess we should say what a lot of people are probably thinking first. |
| 1:42.6 | Well, this would depend at very least on the relative |
| 1:46.0 | financial status of the grandparents compared to the parents, right? In Singapore, that's actually |
| 1:52.8 | not the case. So I'm a foreign correspondent. I moved to Singapore in 2021, and I have two young kids. |
| 1:58.6 | And I would go pick my kids up at school pickup. |
| 2:01.3 | And I noticed something was off. |
| 2:03.2 | I was the only mom surrounded by grandparents. |
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