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The Manhattan District Attorney has convened a grand jury to investigate and

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so patty I have to say this news about a special grand jury being a paneled was really something.

I mean, you know, we have been waiting for so long for some, you know potential you know

justice here relating to Donald Trump and I think people have felt for a

long time that he would always evade accountability given his his

slipperiness so far. Well I mean I feel like I have this poor dead horse over here that

I keep taking advantage of I just don't't believe that there is going to be any.

You know, it's gone on for so long and when we needed it the most when our democracy was at risk,

nothing really happened. And so, and we see that with the, you know,

the Republicans who refused to have this bipartisan commission

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