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about team needs, draft prospects, and the latest NFL storylines. That's the Meenit Kimeshow

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Welcome to That's What She Said with Sarah Spain, a podcast about…

Well, whatever the hell I want, actors and musicians, athletes, comedians, neuroscientists,

wine experts, if I find somebody interesting, I'm bringing them to you. We'll talk about how they

became who they are, how they found success, battle failures, and how they ended up here, talking to me.

Hi, I'm Brad Zubong, Sarah's husband. My dilemma is that my wife made me hike the Grand Canyon,

and we did it. It wasn't always pretty, but we did it, and I'm worried about what she might plan next.

Wow, what an amazing wife to push you to do something that makes you feel so accomplished and

strong, you know, to include you in a special bucket list trip with her mom, to encourage you to

see one of the seven natural wonders of the world close up. I mean, come on, she sounds great.

I bet you can't even remember the soreness in your legs when you were hiking. I bet you can't

remember it at all, that the only thing you can remember now is the beauty of the canyon and the

great memories, but you won't even ever be able to recall exactly how much it hurt to, I'm sorry,

what? You did video check-ins during the hike up. Oh, you should have the socks. Come on,

long way. Still along we'll have to go socks. Really, we have about two hours left on the hike,

which might as well be three days. Nice view, but good gravy.

All right, so it was about mile left. I feel like a bag of penises, but powering through

a Siri, am I going to survive this? I should run, but almost there. It's been red relish.

So I made it to the top. Everything hurts, particularly my calves.

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