So all respect to Mike Isaac, who has been doing some great coverage of it. But now that the Elon

Altman lawsuit has concluded as to whether or not Sam Altman could steal a charity, you wouldn't

steal a charity, I have to say, and I think Nova, you were mentioning this is Mike Isaac's view as

well, friend of the show, Mike Isaac, this whole thing was a moronic slideshow and we were right to not discuss it. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think everybody in, in sort of like,

both in the courtroom and society just hates both of them. And so, listen, I'm sad as well

that the judge didn't, like, there isn't footage of Elon Musk in the sort of sort of like chains and muzzle being like 19,000 years.

But like, no, it turns out it's just the whole thing is a huge waste of time.

He did manage to call the judge like an activist on Twitter immediately after losing, which is kind of funny. But for the most part, who care? Yeah. You know what? It would have been much better if the bailiff had had to say at one point, Mr. Musk, you were not allowed to come into the courtroom dressed like Hannibal Lecter on the Dolly. No one thinks you're Hannibal Lecter. They should have let them do it by trial by combat. I don't care if that's not legal in California. They should have made an exception.

They should have done like do it by trial by combat. I don't care if that's not legal in California.

They should have made an exception. They should have done like a kind of pay-per-view, like put them on a barge, towed out into like international waters and make them fight for like with knives.

Presumably that would also mean Sam Altman's polycule would show up or am I thinking of Sam Bankman--Fried? Sam-Bankman-Free. Yeah, Sam-Ollman arguably has like a sort of harum of former like X-Twinks, which I guess could have him like a kind of force multiplier there, maybe. I don't know. Yeah, so in principle it's the same, but it's not explicitly defined as a polycule. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just the fact that you can even see with making the mistake between the two, that there's an overabundance

of Sam's for us to care about. There are a lot of these people who are only in our lives because

they are annoying and have money. And as you said, Riley, the sideshow aspect of it, it's definitely whoever wins,

we lose thing, because there's no one you want to root for here. There's no one you want to, you want to be like, oh, that person's just, you know, holding the line. Like, obviously in the libel case or whatever, where the rescue diver was called pedo guy by Elon Musk, you want to support the rescue diver. No, I hope they both

lose. I think I have the idea.

Gavin Newsom, if you're listening, Elon Musk. You want to support the rescue diver. No, I hope they both lose. I think I have the idea.

Gavin Newsom, if you're listening to this, I know you are. A Thunderdome is not always an

unreasonable way to conclude a trial. Yeah, yeah, you can get them on your podcast and then your

son can fulfill his destiny by doing a murder-suicide and it'll solve the problem.

It's Trash Future, by the way. Oh yeah,. Hi, everybody. It's T.F. We're going to have a friend of the show, frequent guest, Q a non-anonymous contributor and researcher on feminism in the far right, Annie Kelly on in the second half, to talk a little bit about, I don't know if you've all seen this. London has slopped. Yeah, we had, we finally did, speaking of trial by combat, we finally compressed Chud versus Woke into one day. And,

you know, thanks to the police, neither Chud nor Woke interacted. And the Chud March just was a lot

smaller than the previous one.

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