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The Lawfare Podcast

Graham Allison on "Destined for War"

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🗓️ 22 July 2017

⏱️ 55 minutes

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This week on the Lawfare Podcast, Jack Goldsmith interviews Graham Allison at the Hoover Book Soiree about Allison's new book, Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap?. The conversation covers the history of rising and declining powers, how the North Korean regime affects the security dynamic between U.S. and China, and how to preserve peace where Thucydides would predict war.

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I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast July 22, 2017.

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Strategists have long debated the likelihood of war between the United States and China.

2:18.5

And last week at the Hoover Book Swarray, Jack Goldsmith interviewed Graham Allison about

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Allison's newest book Destined for War, Can America and China Escape Thusidides Trap?

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Their conversation covered the history of conflict between rising and dominant powers, how

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the North Korean crisis complicates the security dynamic between the United States and China,

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and how to preserve peace where Thusidides would predict war.

2:47.7

That's the LawFair podcast episode 239, Graham Allison on the US, China, and Thusidides

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Trap.

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Today I'm truly thrilled to have my steam colleague Graham Allison to talk about his new

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book Destined for War, Can America and China Escape Thusidides Trap?

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It's a great book.

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I told Graham it's one of the best books I've read in a long time and I highly recommend

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it. It's great because it deals with very important issues obviously and it deals with them

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in a deep and serious way and it with complicated ideas but they're presented in an extraordinarily

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