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Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck, and we are doing a wild style today here on stuff you should know.

One of those episodes where it's like this topic is cooler than we are,

but we're going to give it our best to try to get across how neat it really is.

Oh, man, I'm not going to say when.

Maybe you can guess, but there's one portion of this that it'll be the most middle-aged white dude thing ever. Okay. I'm looking forward to it because I can't guess. Okay, I'll see if you. You'll probably know when I go into my voice. Okay. Is it that old witch voice that you like to do? No, no, no, no. You'll know the voice. All right.

Is it an Italian thing? No, not Italian. All right. I'll figure it out then. We're talking graffiti, obviously, Chuck. I don't know if everybody knows that. Yeah. I mean, we covered some of this in our hip-hop episode for sure, but this is one of the pillars of hip-hop culture, as we'll see,

but graffiti needed its own thing. And graffiti in the United States, we basically think of as sort of the late 60s East Coast thing. And this isn't one of those things. I do see where

Libya put in like cave drawings, but I'm not even going to talk about that.

Sure.

Because I was like, come on, Libya.

But very good point here in Mexico in like the 1930s where mural art and sort of public art during the Mexican Revolution was a big thing.

And so Chicano kids in the 1930s sort of brought that same style to L.A. and other cities.

Right.

In the 1930s and 40s before the spray can was invented.

But I feel like that is a genuine sort of precursor to what we know is modern graffiti.

Yeah, because they were, well, they were writing on walls.

Sometimes they were using

paint and brushes. Markers didn't exist. Spray cans didn't exist yet. But they were using what they

had. A lot of times just to tag their neighborhood is like this turf belongs to this gang. But

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