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The Lawfare Podcast

Graeme Wood on "The Way of the Strangers"

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🗓️ 31 March 2017

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

At this week's Hoover Book Soiree, Samuel Tadros of the Hudson Institute and the Hoover Institution sat down with Graeme Wood to discuss his new book, The Way of the Strangers: Encounters with the Islamic State. The book both situates ISIS within context of Islamic history and theology and chronicles Wood's meetings with ISIS supporters and sympathizers across the world in an effort to understand what's behind the group's pull. It's a useful complement to the news coming out of Iraq and Syria as we begin to consider what the future of ISIS will look like after the fall of Raqqa and Mosul.

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There's also a reluctance to see ISIS as having any intellectual or political genealogy,

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whatsoever. I think there was especially in the early days of our collective shock at what ISIS was doing,

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tendency to see them as wild men, as psychopaths, and this fed in very well, by the way,

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with a general kind of prejudice against Arabs as barbarians.

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What you find instead, if you take that eye in ISIS, the first eye in ISIS, seriously,

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is that they are, in fact, looking to a contested tradition,

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and this tradition is one that we call the Islamic tradition.

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They're asking questions that Muslims have asked themselves, and come up with, you know,

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many different and incompatible answers over the centuries.

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April 1, 2017. This week at the Hoover Books R.A.,

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Graham Woods sat down with Samuel Tadros, senior fellow at the Hudson Institute Center for Religious Freedom,

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and distinguished visiting fellow and middle eastern studies at the Hoover institution,

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to talk about Woods' new book, The Way of the Strangers, Encounters with the Islamic State.

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The book is a chronicle of Woods' meetings with ISIS supporters across the world,

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to see attempts to understand what about the terrorist organization appeals to its followers.

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