Hello everyone and welcome to the Graceology with Gwen Smith podcast. I'm Gwen Smith and I am so glad you've joined me today.

Around here we have fun, faith-focused, grace-filled conversations, all to help you know and trust God more.

Our discussions are honest, often humorous, and always practical. And they're

going to encourage you in meaningful ways to live out and lean on the grace of Jesus in the midst

of cluttered, messy days. You got any of those? I know I do. And I can't wait to get to today's

conversation, which is all about prioritizing Jesus over everything.

Today, my guest is Lisa Whittle. Lisa is a podcast host, a speaker, author, ministry leader, wife and mama, who's also a longtime personal friend of mine.

This episode is rich with a hearty conversation about legacy and ministry life and just the heart of what God has been teaching her.

And there's no doubt, y'all, that life is complicated and it's really easy for us to be concerned with things that don't really matter.

Or to get caught up in what Lisa calls the deadly overse, over-expl over apologizing, and over complicating life and

faith. We feel those strains and the pains of brokenness because we live in a fallen world

that's volatile and often seems out of control. Yet the Bible tells us that every believer of

Jesus has access to the resurrection power of God. And y'all, Lisa and I talk about

ways to live in that power and to courageously live out what we know the Bible says is true.

So if you need some fresh strength and encouragement today, you're really going to love this

episode with my friend Lisa Whittle.

Lisa Whittle. I'm so excited to have you on the Graceology show today.

Oh, it is fun for me.

This is girlfriend's stuff.

Exactly.

I mean, you and I have been friends for, I don't even want to think about how many years.

A long time.

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