Hello everyone and welcome to the Graceology with Gwen Smith podcast. I'm Gwen Smith and I'm so glad

you joined me today. Around here we have fun, faith-focused, grace-filled conversations, all to help you know

and trust God more. Our discussions are honest, often humorous, and always practical. And they're going to

encourage you in meaningful ways to live out and lean on the grace of Jesus in the midst of cluttered,

messy days. You got any of those? I know I do. And I can't wait to get to today's conversation,

which is all about complicated relationships.

Yeah.

Today, my guest is Mary DeMuth.

She is a speaker and podcaster and a prolific author who has written 36 books.

36.

Isn't that crazy?

And we're discussing one of her latest books called The Seven Deadly Friendships.

It's a fascinating conversation that will really be helpful to you. Mary helps us understand how to identify toxic friendships and relationships.

She gives us some good advice on what to do when that difficult person is actually a member of

your family. We also discuss the importance of becoming aware of when toxic relationships become a pattern in our lives.

And then she helps us to reframe it all with a positive and productive plan.

It's a great conversation full of depth and insight that will equip you to move forward in healing, relational health, and hope.

Thank you. relational health and hope. Hello, Mary.

Welcome to the Graceology podcast. It's so great to be here. Thanks for having me on.

I'm excited to have you on. You're one of my friends that is like a friend of a bunch of my friends.

A side friend. Yeah, you're a side friend. You know, I, we've known of you. I think I've known of you for years and I've seen your books coming through

and be on bookshelves. And I've seen a lot of what you've done on social media with just really

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