Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Graceology with Gwen Smith podcast. I'm Gwen Smith,

and I'm really glad you've joined us today. We're loving season four around here with the

addition of the

Moments of Grace episodes and we hope that you are too. Hey, if you haven't had a chance to rate

and review the show yet wherever you listen, listen, it matters so much and it really helps

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a five-star rating and a quick little review,

we would surely appreciate it.

Around here, we have fun, faith-focused, grace-filled conversations, all to help you know

and trust God more.

Our discussions are honest, often humorous, and always practical.

And they're going to encourage you in meaningful ways to live out and lean on the grace of Jesus

in the midst of cluttered messy days.

You got any of those?

I know I do.

And I can't wait to get to today's show, which is all about how to hear the voice of God.

My guest is author and pastor Mark Batterson. He's been with

us before and he is back again to talk about the heart behind two books. One is for adults and it's

called whisper and one that's a brand new children's book called God speaks in whispers. When it comes to hearing from God, the question isn't whether

or not God speaks. The question is, what does he have to say to you? The voice that spoke the cosmos

into existence is the same voice that parted the Red Sea and made the sun stand still in the midday sky.

One day, this voice will make all things new, but it's also speaking to you now. That voice is God's voice, and what we've learned

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